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Post by Brian (Blue Jays GM) on Aug 2, 2023 9:24:00 GMT -5
Blue Jays receive: 2023 8th round pick (SD)
Padres receive: 2B/3B Eduardo Escobar 18.7 million (2022-24) *Blue Jays cover full salary in 2024, frontloaded to 2023 2023 6th round pick (MIA)
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Post by Tucker (Padres GM) on Aug 2, 2023 9:24:28 GMT -5
Accept
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Post by Ben (Rays GM) on Aug 2, 2023 10:07:44 GMT -5
Veto.
So TOR gets to clear 18.7 million of future salary and all it costs them is to move back from a 6th to an 8th?
I get that SD has cap space to burn and it's basically use-it-or-lose-it but c'mon, it should cost TOR more than this to clear nearly $20 million off their books. This is exactly what the new rule on frontloading is trying to prevent, except in this case TOR doesn't even need to burn their own cash... they burn another team's space instead. So TOR gets out of their bad commitment for basically nothing; they're not even down a pick really since they replaced the 6th they lost with an 8th.
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Post by Brian (Blue Jays GM) on Aug 2, 2023 10:16:40 GMT -5
I could buy out Escobar and front-load most of it to this year. This is only gaining me an additional ~8 mil in cap space, not 20.
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Post by Ben (Rays GM) on Aug 2, 2023 10:29:05 GMT -5
I could buy out Escobar and front-load most of it to this year. This is only gaining me an additional ~8 mil in cap space, not 20. Thank you for clarifying, this is a very fair point. If the ~$11 million space you currently have remains dead space through the deadline then yeah, $8 million for this return is... still a little light, in my opinion, but not absurdly so. I still think SD should have received more for their assistance here, but I get it since you're both basically working with dead space. I retract my veto for now. That said, this assumes the $11 million remains dead space. If TOR were to find something else of value to burn that $11 million on in the next 12.5 hours, then this becomes an $18.7 million issue again and I will likely be vetoing once more (there's also always the chance that TOR finds somewhere to burn it post-deadline, such as secondary FA, but that seems unlikely to become particularly relevant).
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