DL Moves - topic for next year.

[Kevin (Guardians GM)]

Just wanted to start a discussion on DL moves during the week. I don't want to go to daily, I like the weekly but now that PAs play an important part what happens to a team that has a guy or 2 get put on the DL early in the week. In real life, a new player comes in, so would a DL move be allowed by a commissioner to remove the DL player and put in a bench player so the team doesn't get negatively affected?

Just wanted to see thoughts on this for something for next year. (too late for me this week!)

[Max (Tigers GM)]

Nothing worse than losing a player, batter or pitcher, on a Monday or Tuesday and play shorthanded the rest of the week. Unclear on a solution is reached...perhaps just a Wednesday reset of the existing Yahoo! roster is possible? For the sake of the commissioners putting them thru a mid-week add/drop type deal seems a little much...

[Tucker (Padres GM)]

So I have a feeling i'm probably in the minority, but i'm not sure i'm sold on PA's as a category. There are a few reasons, but the main one is that I think it puts too much emphasis on just having players who play, and not enough on performance. I don't think a player being given a day off in the middle of the week should have the potential to lose and entire category for a team. If a player starts, they are pretty much guaranteed to get their 4 PA's, no matter if they go 4/4 or 0/4. As for it providing more value for hitters and the top of the order, that may be true over the course of the season, but 1 extra PA a week doesn't help enough to make it worth it at the expense of other categories. It's too small a sample size. As also mentioned, a guy going on the DL pretty much makes it impossible to win PA's.

IP's on the other hand are very much performance based. Obviously if you have more starters than another team, you'll get more IP's, but they aren't guaranteed game to game. If your starter gets lit up in the 2nd, hes not going to get you 6-7 IP's just because, he's coming out. If your RP comes in and gives up 3 hits in a row, hes not going to finish the inning.

Like I said, i'm probably in the minority but I want to see what other think.

[Oren (Diamondbacks GM)]

I completely agree with you tucker.

[Kevin (Guardians GM)]

My point wasn't just about PAs but all categories for hitters. Losing 2/3 guys now hurts all categories and could cost me a win (which I'm fine with, it's a long season). I was looking at the fact that we did weekly lineups cause it was like setting your rotation for the week. In real life when a guy goes down, the team doesn't play short the rest of the week. That is my main point.

In terms of PA's, unless there is a better way to make sure teams have full lineups in, I think it's fine. If they lose PA's cause one guy had a day off, they could still be winning the other hitting cats and take the week there. Just my 2 cents.

[Ben (Rays GM)]

As far as I know there's no way to implement a mid-week reset. Even when we (the commissioners) make a roster change, there's no option for us to make the change go through any time besides Monday.

As for the PA debate, yeah I get that it's not necessarily performance based, but it's also just one single category. And I'd argue that having players that start every day is still a relevant measure of how well the team was built. But I definitely see the other side of that debate as well.

[Tucker (Padres GM)]

While i agree that over the course of the season its a good measure, week by week there is too much variance in games played for it to effectively show that. It comes down to games played in a week, and thats hard to plan for. If a team has an off day and you have two players on that team, you're losing those AB's even though the players may both be everyday players. Its a tough category to come back in. If you're down 2 HR's and your team has a great day and hits 4, you're all caught up. If you're down 12 PA's, your team cant have a great day and catch up, you have to catch a break with someone not playing that day or having an off day. I appreciate the the intentions behind it, I just don't think its an effective category.

[Ben (Rays GM)]

A player gets injured, your team suffers. That's true in real life as well.